Hans Ulrich Obrist and Sebastian Clark

 Portrait of Nikita Kadan. Photo: Klaus Pichler, © mumok

Portrait of Nikita Kadan. Photo: Klaus Pichler, © mumok

The Ukrainian artist Nikita Kadan moved into a bunker at the war's beginning. There, he spoke to Hans Ulrich Obrist and Sebastian Clark about how the past remains in the subjunctive and why we need a new anti-fascism.